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Wilderness Podcast's mission is to spread contextual awareness surrounding wilderness issues and ideals by helping to facilitate a more in-depth appreciation through long form interviews with subject area experts.

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Ep. 022

Release Date: November 21st,  2019

A Conversation with George Wuerthner | George Wuerthner | Public Lands Media | Ep. 022

George Wuerthner of Public Lands Media

"The Wilderness Society was formed because the founders felt that other conservation groups were compromising too much and giving up too much good wilderness. Bob Marshall said we want no stragglers, fence sitters and those whos first instinct is to compromise. The irony is that the Wilderness Society has become one of those organizations today. I just feel that Aldo Leopold and Olaus Murie would be rolling in their graves.” - George Wuerthner on Wilderness Podcast 

In this episode I have a sit-down conversation with long-time wilderness and public lands advocate George Wuerthner. His articles appear in publications across the country. He has published thirty eight books on wild lands and relate issues. George is the owner of Public Lands Media, a non-profit that disseminates science in digestible form and advocates for best environmental practices on public lands such as fire, timber and predator management. George has been instrumental in wilderness campaigns across the country since the 1980s. George is one of our foremost, most passionate wilderness advocates alive today. 

We discuss his early years, career trajectory, working with Doug Thompkins (founder of the North Face), best practices for logging and fire management, what forest resiliency actually looks like, insights into the working of Forest Service timber sales, criticisms of modern conservation collaboratives, The Gallatin Range near Bozeman, MT, Wilderness history, political examples of successful long-shot wilderness campaigns and criticism of the how the Wilderness Society and other conservation groups are operating in Montana and across the country.


A passion project about wilderness the place and wilderness the idea...

Wilderness Podcast is a passion project about wilderness and wild places, where I am attempting to tell the story of wilderness both past and present. In this program you will find a heavy focus on public lands and our National Wilderness Preservation System, but it also seeks to expand the scope of wilderness beyond distant landscapes.


The idea for this podcast came about after observing a growing public fascination and interest in the subject of wilderness. As more people become familiar with our public lands and wild places, the importance of meaningful, thought-provoking discourse has never been so crucial. This podcast is for everybody; from the enthusiast, to the wilderness newbie and everyone else in between. Most episodes are done interview style, where I talk with interest area experts about the history, ethics, people, wildlife and places that embody and epitomize wilderness ideals.


From national political issues like Bears Ears National Monument, The Tongass and the Gallatin Range. To broader subjects like the American Environmental Movement, the Wilderness Act and Art History. To people like Aldo Leopold, Rachel Carson, John Muir, Robert Marshall and Teddy Roosevelt. To environmental issues like climate change, public lands grazing, native fish and predators. To social issues like Leave No Trace and the impacts of social media on our wild places. I hope you will subscribe and follow along. Thanks for listening!

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